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[POLL] What do you use symfony for?

This is for discussion, mainly on 1.x but there's some 2.x topics here too.

Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by dnetzer » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:27 am

Nationality: American
Age: 30
Sex: M
Professional activity: Senior Developer

What’s the size of your company? 20,000
Les than 10 employees / Between 10 and 50 / Between 50 and 500 / More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
2 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Easily Extendable
2 Utilizes PHP 5
3 Solid docs
- :
1 Unstable
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. routing
2. utilized open source technologies; propel, creol, ect..
3.

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Mercury
2. Cake
3. Zend

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes, worked for small->medium sized companies

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. large communities
2. free
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Standard Web CMS's
What would you like to see develop around symfony
Reporting and other useful modules

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Stable releases, approved plug-ins
DWN
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by mitjad » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:30 am

Nationality: Slovenian
Age: 25
Sex: M
Professional activity: Web Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?
2 weeks

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 MVC
2 configuration YML-s
3 Rapid development
- :
1 not enough plugins (stat, search)
2 not enough examples
3 javascript validation

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin Generator
2. I18n
3. templates

Which other framework do you use?
Zend

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Zend
3. Cake

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Free. Community

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free
2. Free
3. Free

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Non jet, intend to ful information system for a company
including web store...

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Quick release of 1.0, stability, plugins, bigger community
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by warmers » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:39 am

Nationality: Australian
Age: 28
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal / Both

Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite and Community
Since when?

About 6 months now

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Great featureset
2 Strong inbuilt CRUD tools
3 Fantastic development suite
- :
1 Too many config files - I'd like to config for models in one place. Sort of like how it is in Rails.
2 Quite a big learning curve
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. admin generator
2. model generator
3. validation is nice and seamless

Which other framework do you use?

Rails (Ruby), Solar(PHP) and I tinker with some Zend pieces.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Rails
3. Solar

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Yes, since I am a fan of it's philosophy, and I also get a huge benifit from community driven technologies.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Availability
3. Community support - which I find rivals many paid services

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

CMS

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

More indepth documentation for API - but having said that, I think the symfony documentation is excellent.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

That it's pace/momentum is kept up.

Great work symfony peoples!
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by amirali1982 » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:43 am

Nationality: Pakistani
Age: 24
Sex: M
Professional activity: Software Engineer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other => Searching and comparision

Since when?
3 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 URL Re-writing
2 Faster development through ORM => Propel
3 Admin generation


- :
1 Lack of code and HTML sepration from the View, unlike "smarty", Change of template during the development period requires lots of fixes to be made in the code.

2 Lots of conflicts in various web hostings, sandbox should be really easy to deploy with less conflict on the hostings.

3 Needs to have more and more plugins and bridges for other frameworks for quickest development


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC Architecture
2. crud generation.
3. routing


Which other framework do you use?
in php, none other than this.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. struts
2. .net
3. Symfony


Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
I use according to the client's requirement, but for my personal projects i prefer opensource.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free of cost frameworks are available to implement cutting-edge technologies in your code.
2. Flexibility
3. cheaper hosting.


What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

Social Networking.

What would you like to see develop around symfony

All => More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Hope it can bring revolution in PHP world.
Amir Ali
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by shota » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:37 am

Nationality: Japanese
Age: 28
Sex: M
Professional activity: Web Application Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
1year ago

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 symfony task
2 helper function
3 routing
- :
1 documentation sometimes outdated.
2 bugs come from propel
3 performance

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Generator
2. Cache
3. fragments

Which other framework do you use?
mojavi, struts, hibernate,

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symfony
2. rails
3. struts, hibernate

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
no

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. free
2. patch
3. flexibility

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
social networking

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
supports many O/R mapper, speed,
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by borfast » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:47 am

Nationality: Portuguese
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Student (computer engineering) / Web Programmer

What’s the size of your company?
Don't have one yet. I'm currently in the process of opening my own.

What is your interest for symfony?
Both professional and personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
I was searching for PHP 5 frameworks.

Since when?
A few months ago, maybe 6 months ago.

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Powerful
2 Flexible
3 Time saver
- :
1 A little complex at first
2 No web services (at least not that I know of but I know it's part of the objectives)
3 Not as known as WASP, for example (although much better than WASP, IMO)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Implementation of patterns
2. Command line interface
3. Configuration system using both XML and YAML

Which other framework do you use?
Drupal, my own (old)

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Drupal
3. Zend Framework

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes. Because it allows me to modify the code to better fit my needs, if needed I can check the code for problems and, lastly but very important, I can contribute back to the community.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. It allows me to modify the code to better fit my needs;
2. If needed I can check the code for problems;
3. I can contribute back to the community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Content management systems, online shops.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
Everything. I think symfony is great and more documentation, more support and training would all be great additions to this great framework.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Web services! ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by JoSsiF » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:55 pm

Nationality: German
Age: 25
Sex: M
Professional activity: Graduand in Multimedia Technology

What’s the size of your company?
More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other (non-professional online review about different PHP frameworks; further research)

Since when?
May 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Quick development of Web Projects
2 Open Source
3 Range of Functions
- :
1 No 1.0 Version / deep cuts on new Versions
2 Overall performance (Propel, View Rendering, Partials)
3 Good doc, but doesn't cover all important issues (yet)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin Generator
2. Debugging Mode
3. MVC

Which other framework do you use?
Struts; used MS .net for a while, but that's hardly comparable to symfony

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Struts
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. strong communities behind projects
2. cost
3. impact on future development

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Enterprise Intranet Apps

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Quick release of v1.0; complete doc; wide spread
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by roel » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:30 pm

Nationality: Belgian
Age: 27
Sex: M
Professional activity: SW Developer

What’s the size of your company? 12

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when? june 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
Don't have enough experience with other frameworks to know

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. debug tools
3. nice db schema / sample data / batch scripts integration

Which other framework do you use? None

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
N/A

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No but try as much as possible

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cheap
2. can fix bugs myself
3. usually good community support

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
business automation

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
- Be able to use Smarty templates
- Many good, stable and easy to integrate plugins
- A way to have different symfony versions on one machine, and being able to indicate which one to use per-project
- Regular stable releases that don't differ too much from one version to the other, but that are stable and well-documented (and correctly documented)
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by awildeep » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:25 pm

Nationality: American
Age: 28
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Programmer/developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional & Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite & Community

Since when?
I started looking into it over a year ago.

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 PHP (I like PHP what can I say?)
2 Better documentation & community than most I have tried (with a few exceptions)
3 I18N
- :
1 Admin generator (I know I am in the minority here)
2 Dependace on Propel
3 Speed

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC & design patterns
2. Pluggins
3. Configuration (for most things)

Which other framework do you use?
Currently, none. Though I do maintain a Rails site or two.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Rails
2. Symfony (This gets more attention from me due to PHP)
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No, clients for some reason demand closed source at times. I prefer it, as long as the project is under active developement.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Source code availability
2. Cost
3. Open peer review

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Customer relationship management, Order management, Scheduling, CMS

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation (you can't ever have enough)

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
-Propel independance (I know the doctrine pluggin is coming, but I don't know if Doctrine will perform well enough for me either).
-Performance increases
-Data caching (not using session, not tied to an action/component/url/template).
-More corperate backing
-Something totally awesome that I can not live without. :)~ :-)~ :smile:
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by danek » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:57 am

Nationality: Polish
Age: 25
Sex: male
Professional activity: web developer / programmer

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when? February 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 i18n
2 credentials management
3 documentation
- :
1 installation on remote hosts without shell/httpd.conf access
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. i18n
2. validation
3. admin generator

Which other framework do you use? code igniter

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symfony
2. code igniter
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why? It's cheap for a small company

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cost
2. community around the projects
3. cost

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Websites for personal or small companies. Usualy requiring i18n support and lots of text editing (blogs, news management, produts, galleries, etc.)

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony? Full i18n support in admin generator, more unobtrusive approach to JavaScript and AJAX.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by Benjamin G » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:41 pm

Nationality: Fr
Age: 27
Sex: M
Professional activity: developper

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Google search for a PHP framework

Since when?
april 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 : Tutorial / Documentation
2 : PHP (easier to work with other web professionnals)
3 : Feature completeness (address all real-world concerns, not just Ajax helpers to get a buzz) ==> TRUE speed of developpment
- : Haven't really tried framework other than custom one mainly because of 1) and 2).
1
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. class and module generators
2. ORM
3. good i18n support

Which other framework do you use?
Custom one.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free
2. Can browse source for in-depth documentation
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Forum-like application (not yet released).

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

Better support for complex database queries.
Speed improvements.
Plug-ins.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

1.0 release (framework still need polishing and bug fixes) and its complete documentation.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by heliocorreia » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:06 pm

Nationality: Brazilian
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
Feb, 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 MVC Based
2 Community / Support / Main Documentation
3 I18n support
- :
1 Propel limits
2 Version 1.0
3 Learning curve

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC pattern
2. Admin generator
3. Plugins

Which other framework do you use?
Symfony, CakePHP, ZendFramework

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. CakePHP
3. ZendFramework

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Community / OpenSource
2. Security
3. Cost

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Enterprise Resource Planning systems (ERP)

What would you like to see develop around symfony
Documentation / Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Continued development / stable enviroment
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by wjessup » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:32 am

Nationality: US
Age: 24
Sex: M
Professional activity: programmer

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 MVC
2 ORM
3
- :
1 form validation outside of model
2 no clear way to do sub-templating , can build own abstract class but framework should support this obvious feature.
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1.
2.
3.

Which other framework do you use?
ruby on rails

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. best depends on what i'm doing with it. i like both.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
yes. its accessible and has community

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. accessible
2. community
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
http://www.kevo.com

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
simplification, to be honest.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
symfony is wonderful - but I just did a project with rubyonrails and noticed a benefit of using their folder structure - its easy to nest models and views to create natural sub-templating (and create your own quickie abstract class to handle additional layouts).

Also, unless i'm missing something the validators in ror kick major ass and allow for very DRY forms.


Am looking forward to alot of great improvements with symfony, kevo has done very well with it and it wasn't the wrong choice!
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by hansoro » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:01 pm

Nationality: United States
Age: 25
Sex: M
Professional activity: SQL/client/web programming

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
sporadically since march 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1) documentation
2) configuration
3) potential!
- :
1) propel: SLOW (many queries - contributes greatly to http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Framework%20Performa nce imo). generating a million classes to try to cover every possible schema select combination is a fundamentally flawed approach. poorly documented. i dont think anyone would say it doesnt fight the coder every step of the way. that's not what symfony is about (:
2) major state of flux with respect to standards at the moment. (this is necessary and will hopefully reap benefits in the future, though!)
3) i fear 1.0 arriving with propel as the default ORM, and turning off many thousands of potential users :(~ :-(~ :sad:

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. admin generator
2. clean MVC
3. scaffolding (just about everyone uses this for the first project or two, even if rarely after that. great for growing community size/wetting feet).

Which other framework do you use?
none, at present.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. rails
2. django
3. symfony
(php just isnt as clean as the former two languages. django is blazing fast if lacking in ajax integration. symfony's ORM hurts it

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
whenever i can! no, unfortunately

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. the way software should be made
2. leverages its community
3. transparency and peer review almost always leads to better code

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
a few small corporate intranet projects, to date. can't wait to have more time for symfony.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
you can NEVER have enough documentation. more askeet-like tutorials, exploring other types of sites, would be great!

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
to supplant cakephp, zend, et al as the undisputed king of php frameworks.

Thanks for your time :P
thanks for your framework.
-hansbrix
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by Alexey Lapusta » Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:56 pm

Nationality: Russian
Age: 18
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
3 Monthes

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Features
2 Documentation
3 Community
- :
1 Complexity

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin generator
2. Validators
3. Plugins

Which other framework do you use?
None

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
Symfony

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
It's free and easy to develop(don't have enough documentation - you can look at the code, not enough features - just extend it)

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free
2. Learn a lot looking though the source
3. Easy to develop

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Hard to describe... Smth like a Web App for one Business Process automatization.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Leave Zend & CakePhp frameworks behind
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by apatruduque » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:21 am

Nationality: spanish
Age: 31
Sex: M
Professional activity: Developer / Consultant

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other: looking for "php frameworks" in google

Since when? October 2005

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Documentation
2 Community support
3 Ajax integration
- :
1 Speed (probably due to propel)
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2.
3.

Which other framework do you use?
none

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symphony
2. ruby on rails
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Mostly yes because its easier to adapt to needs of my clients

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Source code
2. Flexibility
3. Interoperability

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
MAnagement

What would you like to see develop around symfony
A ajax-CMS based on symphony

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
keep on the development/documentation velocity.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by apatruduque » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:22 am

Nationality: spanish
Age: 31
Sex: M
Professional activity: Developer / Consultant

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other: looking for "php frameworks" in google

Since when? October 2005

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Documentation
2 Community support
3 Ajax integration
- :
1 Speed (probably due to propel)
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2.
3.

Which other framework do you use?
none

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symphony
2. ruby on rails
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Mostly yes because its easier to adapt to needs of my clients

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Source code
2. Flexibility
3. Interoperability

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
MAnagement

What would you like to see develop around symfony
A ajax-CMS based on symphony

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
keep on the development/documentation velocity.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by oriol » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:30 pm

Nationality: spanish
Age: 29
Sex: male
Professional activity: CTO

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees


What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
8 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 - good documentation
2 - active community
3 - easy to develop when you know how MVC works
- :
1 - hard to learn
2 - small community
3 - templates are so much dificult to use for designers

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. helpers
2. database access system
3. validators

Which other framework do you use?
python

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Not only, but everytime when is possible. The reason the community power and best support in most times than commercial software companies.


Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. you can control all aspects of the applications
2. you modify and/or expand functionalities
3. opensource communities often develop very good documentation

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
We develop software that sells pre-paid cards for mobiles in Spain.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
More integration of webservices in the core of the framework
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by dejan_spasic » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:30 am

Nationality: german
Age: 28
Sex: M
Professional activity: Web Application Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
propels mailing list

Since when?
since ~10 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 documentation
2 i18n support
3 rapid development
- :
1 prefomence
2 yaml
3 no soa

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. scaffolding
2. mvc
3. helpers

Which other framework do you use?
ez Components; Mojavi; Agavi; Zend Famework (ZF)

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. ZF
2. Symfony
3. Agavi

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Cost and community support

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cost
2. security / accessible
2. community support

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Intranet-, CRM- Solutions

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More and multilingual documentations/trainings

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
- enterprise stability
- prefomence
- web service
- still rocking the php world

You worte a great framework. I think it's a enrichment for the php world. Thank you for the hard work!
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by kayzzer » Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:17 am

Nationality: Venezuelan
Age: 28
Sex: Male
Professional activity: IT Engeneer

What’s the size of your company?
More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other: Reserching about web dev frameworks

Since when?
about a year

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 | Admin Generator
2 | Debuging capabilities
3 | Great documentation
- :
1 | Instalation (at least it's easier then django)
2 | Directory structure (the MVC should be more concise)
3 | The view components are a bit vague (too many variants: partials, includes, slots, components, etc each one with variations about the way parameters are used)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Code generation Scripts
2. The way the aplication logic is organized into actions
3. Unit testing (I haven't used it yet)

Which other framework do you use?
Ruby on Rails

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Ruby on Rails
2. Symfony
3. Django

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
The goverment is promoting the use of open source software for all the "public" institutions. And off course I think open source rocks. In the other side I want to contribute to the OS proyects I'm planning to use, but I need to get on shape first :)~ :-)~ :smile:

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Freedoom
2. Fast evolution and bug fixes
3. Oportunity to participate on great projects
an 4. The comunity of an open source proyect is the nicest, easiest and joyfull way to get Smart :D~ :-D~ :grin:

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
I'm planing to dev aplications for a corporate Intranet that mainly atends administrative needs.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
I really would like Symfony to get a litle more lite. And more portable. I did spend some time getting symfony installed and if you guys wouldn't came out with the sandbox, perharps I wouldn pass on it. In my work I'm behind a big fat firewall and I can't install the framework through PEAR nor get it from SVN (YET)

Ruby on Rails is really easy to install (and I know is not nice to compare) but that' a fact that make programers get into rails so easy. (Using instant rails off course)


p.d. sorry about my lame english
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by zsolesz » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:37 pm

Nationality: Hungarian
Age: 21
Sex: Male
Professional activity: PHP Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Professional

Since when?

3 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 fast developing
2 great debug
3 friendly community
- :
1 admin generator is a bit bounded
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. cache
2. admin generator
3. security

Which other framework do you use?

-

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

nope

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cost
2. community
3. support

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

intranet system for a company, administration, etc..

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

to reach 100 messages in the forum :)~ :-)~:smile :)
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by synace » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:51 pm

Nationality: usa
Age: 25
Sex: m
Professional activity: web developer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?
November, 2005

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 easy to start with
2 scaffolding/plugins = resuable code
3 no need for a slow template engine, php already is one
- :
1 propel = slow, limited relationships
2 helper system is confusing & limited for growth.. still trying to figure out the pros/cons. my templates are always integrated by a person who isn't the developer and isn't the designer/html/css coder. they're more of a 'developer' though, so they can be complex.
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. code generation/orm
2. validators
3. admin generator

Which other framework do you use?
custom coded one, proprietary

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symfony
2. rails (if rails was PHP, i might put it #1, since php is my 'native' language)
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
I try to.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cost
2. customizability
3. contribution of our ideas into public software

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
e-commerce, end-user facing
informational/brochure
media delivery
process management

What would you like to see develop around symfony
A stable release that is 'backed' by some sort of endorsement from the PHP community at large. When people say PHP, they think symfony.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
larger user base
more contributors
stable feature packed goodness
integration w/ an IDE?
lots more plugins and turn-key solutions for common problems, making symfony a 'choice' for common things like forums, blog, etc..
~synace~
M2Synergies, Inc.
http://m2synergies.com
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by JoshS » Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:47 am

Nationality:
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Professional activity: IT Manager

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Symfony Website

Since when?
6 months ago

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1. It's well documented compared to other frameworks
2. It's relatively light weight and easy to learn yet is powerful
3. Combines a lot of nice projects together
- :
1. Stability. I had problems initially with the pear version.
2.
3.

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Provides standardized approach to application development
2. Integrated AJAX
3.

Which other framework do you use?
.NET mostly.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Struts
3. .NET

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Good community
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Advanced Portals, Document Management Systems and Content Management Systems.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
More API documentation and examples. A better search for the documentation is needed. I often use the search and get absolutely no results =(

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
That it becomes more stable.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by xiblack » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:40 am

Nationality: Vietnamese
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Professional activity: System Analyst/ERP related development

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
Since first month of Symfony

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Well documented
2 Powerful
3 Very clean coding and easily to understand
- :
1 Quite slow in performance
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin generator
2. MVC design
3. Command line support

Which other framework do you use?


Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony for sure :D~ :-D~ :grin:
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Most likely.
Because it's cheap & the soure is ... open :D~ :-D~ :grin:

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Economy
2. Support from community
3. Flexibility

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Intranet portal and linking with ERP systems

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation & More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Become mainstream framework for PHP
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by karl » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:31 pm

Nationality: French
Age: 24
Sex: Big (sorry)
Professional activity: Web developper

What’s the size of your company?
< 5

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
searching for a good php framework, I managed to find THE one.

Since when?
End of 2005

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Well documented, with great tutorials
2 Strong, powerfull
3 Clean and ultra fast development time
- :
1 long learning curve (do to power)
2 too few doc on propel / Criteria
3 Quite slow in performance (god bless the cache system :))

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. cache system
3. command line based app generator

Which other framework do you use?
- custom one

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Symfony
3. Symfony

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Nearly allway I can cause I'm a poor man ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free
2. Community help
3. that's in the title : Open source

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Shop / phpGame

What would you like to see develop around symfony
Still and always more documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Make coffee
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by yaniv » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:25 pm

Nationality: Israeli
Age: 22
Sex: Make
Professional activity: Software Development

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other: google

Since when?
One month ago

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 - Quick development
2 - Complete toolset
3 - Easy to lean
- :
1 - Somewhat larger

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. symfony propel-build-model - yeah!
2. modularity
3. security

Which other framework do you use?
Does ADODB count as a framework?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
Not enough experience with other frameworks

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes.
It allows me to learn from the source and it's free.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. The source is open - it allows to learn from experts.
2. Free.
3. Quick upgrades.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Communities

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation. You can never have enough of it.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
That it doesn't die and contiues to grow. Functionality wise it's more than enough for me at the moment.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by ofir » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:44 pm

Nationality: Mexican
Age: 23
Sex: Masculine
Professional activity: Software Development

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Professional

Since when?
2yrs ago

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1. Uses PHP, one of the most used languages in web development, so it's easier to find employees who can code in it.
2. Very well documented, good help from community
3. Deployment is very easy, either as PEAR or as a Sandbox

- :
1. It's helpers are a bit too simple, and lack more advanced features, such as: http://www.symfony-project.com/forum/index.php/t/3206/
2. It's not as fast as one would want it to be
3. Development is slow, it's still in 0.7!

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. ORM (Propel)
3. Caching

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Django
2. Rails
3. Symfony

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
We don't, because there is really good commercial software also.


Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. More brains working for a goal, not for money.
2. A greater variety of software projects are open source, you can find almost anything.
3. Feels good to be able to help others by doing what you like the most.


What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
CRM-like applications.


What would you like to see develop around symfony
More Support


What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
That it becomes the best choice for PHP web development by improving stability, reliability and productivity.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by aston » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:57 pm

Nationality: Hungarian
Age: 21
Sex: male
Professional activity: intranet developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
Since july 2006.

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 easy to build large application with the model generator
2 good helpers
3 good documentation
- :
1 hard to install and setup the server, also needed own server for it
2 low documentation on model layer
3 hard to implement own features for for example to the admin generator ( this point is not like comparing with other Frameworks cause other Frameworks dont have admin generator but i thought to tell u about it :)~ :-)~:smile :)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. helpers
2. model generator
3. admin generator

Which other framework do you use?
Codeigniter

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes. My company only supports Open Source solutions, cause its free.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. free
2. free
3. free

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Intranet.
Moduls like:
- User administration
- Company tool administrations
- Development Process Designer
- Full privilege system
- etc.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation
More feature for admin generator

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Hoping the authors wont end developing it.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by gregor » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:02 pm

Nationality: Slovenian
Age: 27
Sex: Male
Professional activity: programmer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?
10 months?


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1 MVC
2 propel
3 documentation & community

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes. Because it can be modified if necessary (me, community ...). Don't want to rely on any single company.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. control
2. transparency
3. clean code


What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
- simple CMS

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Fast framework with a stable API.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by ava007 » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:33 pm

Nationality: Swiss
Age: 39
Sex: m
Professional activity: IT consultant

What’s the size of your company? < 10
Les than 10 employees / Between 10 and 50 / Between 50 and 500 / More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony? Both
Professional / Personal / Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite


Since when? mid 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 MVC
2 generators, plugins
3 i18
- :
1 stable 1.0 (not yet available)
2 reliance of propel, pear etc -> diffcult to host
3 performance
4 processes (BPEL)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. generators
2. web 2.0 stuff
3.

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2. http://www.radicore.org/
3. zend

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
transparency and learning effect.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. low cost (license and support)
2. often lightweigt
3. influence (of users for further development)

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Portal for clubs: http://www.vereinsportal.ch
only the internal admin part

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
- consolidated documentation
- stable 1.0 version
-


What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
symfony becomes an legendary framework.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by wildan-maulana » Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:58 am

Nationality: Indonesian
Age: 23
Sex: M
Professional activity: web developer / undergraduate student

What’s the size of your company?
Between 5 and 10

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Symfony web site - Google

Since when?
about Feb 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 i18n
2 MVC
3 Generators
- :
1 Speed
2 Better ORM ( maybe Propel 2.0 will do better)
3 Security

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin generators
2. i18n
3. plugins

Which other framework do you use?
none

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Zend
3. ezComponents

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes, limited budget .., community support, i can contribute direclty to the project

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Low cost
2. Community
3. proprietary software

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Informarion system for school, e-procurement app, etc

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

Continued development, keep the documentation better
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by davidj » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:26 am

Nationality:Chinese
Age:25
Sex:Male
Professional activity:Web developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
April 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 PHP
2 Admin Generator
3 Propel
- :
1 Speed
2 Stability
3 Installation

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Propel
2. Admin Generator
3. MVC

Which other framework do you use?
Rails, CakePHP

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Rails
2. Symfony
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Flexibility
2. Cost
3. Support

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
CMS, company website, magazine website

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
stability and speed
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by jcsanchez » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:41 pm

Nationality: Spanish
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
March 2006
In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 admin modules
2 propel integration
3 validator
4 templates
5 modularoty
6 .....
- :
1 lack of pdf information
2 few doc and not updated
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1.Admin modules
2.Propel integration
3.Validators

Which other framework do you use?
Since discovered Symfony, NONE!

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Mojavi
3. Zend?

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Almost 100%.Licensing and comunity, be able to develop the resources by myself

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Licensing for small bussiness
2. Know exactly what you are doing, seeing the source.
3. Expand functionality and resolve bugs by my own.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Bussiness Apllications.


What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Symfony structure allow a big amount of plugins and functionalities: integration with reports, PDF, more Ajax helpers....
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by skoop » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:57 pm

Nationality: Dutch
Age: 28
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Senior Software Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other (Google)

Since when?
A few months ago

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1. Propel
2. Strong but understandable MVC implementation
3. Speed of development
- :
1. Complexity
2. Current templating (layout.php)
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Propel ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
2. Excellent code generation
3. MVC implementation
4. PHP5!!!

Which other framework do you use?
Zend Framework

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Zend Framework
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes, it's the company policy

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. DRYOO (Dont Repeat Yourself Or Others, no re-inventing the wheel)
2. Active development community
3. Active support community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Varies from simple CMS-like applications to complete custom business applications

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Further enhancement of the code but more understandable API. It should not take 24 hours/lessons to learn the framework.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by demental » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:41 pm

Nationality: French
Age: 32
Sex: M
Professional activity: web developer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
June 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Admin generator
2 built-in tools come from existing projects (phpmailer, propel/doctrine, tinyMCE ...)
3 Documentation
- :
1 PHP5-only
2 too many features only available in alpha
3 not lightweight enough for small projects

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. PHP as a template language
2. seamless javascript integration
3. YAML

Which other framework do you use?
Mine (based on pear.php.net packages)

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Code igniter
3. One of my soup made from various pear packages


Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No, I'm on macintosh

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1.Community
2.mostly *nix based
3.Cost

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
small company/community websites, B2B.
What would you like to see develop around symfony
Other : =v1.0 + more plugins

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
i18N in crud and admin generator. 1.0, more plugins and some ready-to-run apps based on it.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by Daxter » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:10 pm

We'd like to get a better understanding of the symfony community.
Would you mind spending a few minutes to answer these questions?
It will help us to see where our efforts should focus first.

Nationality: Canadian
Age:23
Sex:M
Professional activity:Software Engineer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when? About 6 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Fast Development
2 Nice Ajax Integration
3 Clean Structure
- :
1 Difficult to develop plugins as stand alone components
2 Difficult to separate the frontend and backend and still share modules.
3 No pluggin site like Firefox Extensions

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Excellent use of MVC
2. Propel is a very nice abstraction layer saves a lot of work
3. Very nice debugging tools

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. .Net
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Nope


Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Flexibility
2. Can harness the knowledge of a large community of developers
3. Easy to integrate with other open source projects

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Corporate Apps

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
I'd like to see more Pluggins and I'd like to see it become easier to contribute extensions

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
I hope it takes off and becomes the most prominently used framework, and that the community continues to grow, we'll all be better off then!! :)~ :-)~ :smile:

Thanks for your time Razz
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by djrenow » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:57 pm

Nationality: FR
Age: 25
Sex: M
Professional activity: Developer & Project manager

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both Professional & Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?
5 month

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1.Configuration
2.I18N
3.Extensibility
- :
1.Speed
2.Propel Doc
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1.CRUD
2.Configuration
3.Helpers

Which other framework do you use?
Maintaining old projects using an homemade framework

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
Only tried cake for a month so ...

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes, because I believe in Free software !
Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1.Open source
2.Cost
3.Community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Intranet & extranet

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Symfony 1.0 !!!
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by juwiley » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:48 pm

Nationality: US
Age: twenties
Sex: M
Professional activity: Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes, we are using it for a number of new applications

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?
Since PHP cake proved inadequate for our our needs, and ROR required too much additional training for the other staff.

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Documentation
2 Intelligent, well thought out design (frontend/backend)
3 Maturity (vs. Cake and Zend)
- :
1 Mindshare of developers (vs. ROR)
2 PHP
3 Maturity (vs. ROR)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Scaffolding
2. Propel
3. Tag cloud like documentation

Which other framework do you use?
ROR

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. ROR, Symfony
2. Zend
3. Seagull MVC

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
I wish.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Quality of code
2. Quality of developers
3. Cost

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Internal business applications

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Greater extensibility, PDO/Doctrine, Larger user base
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by mikenolan » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:34 pm

Nationality: British
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Web Developer

What’s the size of your company?
More than 500 employees - but less than 10 are involved in web development

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite - was looking for a PHP based framework and stumbled across Symfony

Since when?
September 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Documentation
2 Admin Generator
3 ORM
- :
1 Documentation ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
2 Out of the box server overhead - but caching/APC helps a LOT!
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin Generator - never fails to amaze me every time I create a new module
2.
3.

Which other framework do you use?
Custom made

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. RoR
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
In the main, yes

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free as in beer and speech
2. Personal development
3. Better community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Everything from variations on CMS theme to complex data driven apps for thousands of users.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation, more extensions and plugins

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Keep on improving!
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by stephan » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:25 pm

Nationality: French
Age: 24
Sex: M
Professional activity: Executive Project Manager / Web Developper

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community

Since when?
4 month

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 : Great Documentation and examples
2 : Community
3 : Modern and nice Framework (ajax support, nice code etc).
- :
1 : Maybe a little complex to start a real project (specially for the views and front code management, or maybe it's only me :P )
2 : Nothing (at this moment !)
3 : Nothing (at this moment !)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Great MVC management
2. Great Ajax support
3. Great model management

Which other framework do you use?

Not really frameworks, but some libs (pdf, apeForm, Pear ..).

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Cake
3. Copix

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

No, coding with windows most of the time (sorry :/), but sometime coding with linux.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Community
2. pricing
3. Security

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

Actually a big "web 2.0 branded :roll: " website for my agency.
And a personnal project based on e-business.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation
More Training

Articles on really concrete problematics (based on forum posts for example).


What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

Don't know but, keep the same direction, your framework is really impressiv and nice to use.
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