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[POLL] What do you use symfony for?

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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by mhermann » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:28 am

Nationality: Switzerland
Age: 25
Sex: m
Professional activity: Student

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

How did you get to know symfony?
Other (word-of-mouth advertising)

Since when?
september 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 CRUD
2 datamodel generation via schema.yml
3 ajax support

Which other framework do you use?
dojo

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
semantically annotated publication database

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
improving so fast as it did until now
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by fwave » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:23 pm

Nationality: Portugal
Age: 22
Sex: M
Professional activity:Student,Web developer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
October 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Comunity
2 Documentation
3 learning
- :
1 propel
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. build-all
3. speed

Which other framework do you use?
none

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.Symfony :)~ :-)~ :smile:
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1.Cost
2.Developer
3.community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Web sites.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation,More Support,More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
More community.

Thanks for your time :P :P
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by roga » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:10 pm

Nationality: German
Age: 24
Sex: male
Professional activity: Developer (@work, @home and between)

What’s the size of your company?
More than 500 employees (to be correct, it's not MY company)

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
I heard that yahoo was using symfony for their bookmark application, so I thought I need to take a look at that.

Since when?
december 2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 real MVC
2 admin generator
3 documentation (a lot)

- :
1 not using pdo
2
3 documentation (not always up to date)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. scaffolding
2. data model
3. config system

Which other framework do you use?
my own

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Zend
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
no

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. easy to extend
2. easy to understand
3. low price

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
database frontends, shops

What would you like to see develop around symfony
I will add that later...

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
a lot of success and a lot of fun!
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by cprior » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:53 pm

francois wrote: We'd like to get a better understanding of the symfony community.
Would you mind spending a few minutes to answer these questions?
It will help us to see where our efforts should focus first.


Nationality: german
Age: 31
Sex: Well, I personally am a bit shy about this subject. But we all know french people think of nothing else, so I excuse your enquiry! ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
Professional activity: business guy

What’s the size of your company?
<10

What is your interest for symfony?
Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No, see above. But I would!

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
October 2005, came back in December and was hooked by the 1st advent calender.

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 it is PHP, I understand PHP better than Python/Ruby/Perl/younameit. php.net/$function is my comfort zone.
2 I really like YAML, after some getting-used-to-it. It now feels like a "symfony-config-style" when I edit these files. Years ago I loved .ini files, but they never took off. Now something similar happened here with YAML. In general I should probably say: The good integration of 3rd party libs is very nice.
3 I18n: It exists in every aspect of the framework, it works, so it must be the brainchild of somebody who is not assuming everybody speaks his mothertongue. ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
- :
1 Propel/Creole and their limitations surface in symfony: They are very well integrated and wrapped, but as e.g. Propel docu could need some enhancement it becomes a symfony "problem". In my latest project I never did a build-model but just wrote my own class. I then use it without an ORM but I have done `echo $result['column'] in the past anyways. And no, in my projects the RDBMS will never change.
2 I have to wait with some hosted websites until they finally upgrade to PHP5! One provider just told me they are planning for mid 2007 :(~ :-(~ :sad: Well, there is nothing one can do about it.
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1a. include paths (configuration, lib files). Soooo structured!
1b. consistency (file hierarchy) I just came back to symfony after 6 months off and I get along right away.
2. caching
3. The ability to hook into every step of a request "cycle". This is way above everything I cuold have ever coded myself.

Which other framework do you use?
none. Looked at ZEND in november 05 and there wasn't much at that time.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symfony
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Only OpenSource, because I can participate in leading-edge technology, if I may say so, without the hefty price tag.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. availability `emerge -va whatIwant` and it is right there
2. documentation: those who undestand technical english writing can run almost every software on many architectures, just by reading usenet and forum posts. IT is an amazingly self-documenting event.
3. community: help channels in the form of forums, irc channels, usenet. Priceless.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Symfony is great for quick database publishing. Example: I got this 15000 lines dictionary Excel file. Via a .csv I dumped it in a MySQL database which took me longer than giving read-access to it via a symfony frontend!

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
I hope, no, I am sure it will stay. I only use this one framework, and I want to be able to walk away for another half a year _and_ be able to pick it up again with the same hasslefree experience.

And I hope that you (two) guys will be able to steer the project successfully -- just as you have done so far. I have the notion that fabien really knows his way around in the codebase (I admire that, I would have been lost looong ago) and I assume that francois not just writes good docu but has eyes&ears and good ideas.

After all, symfony might well turn out to be "that big thing" you do in your twenties/thirtes. May symfony live long and prosper!
--
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by rambam » Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:36 pm

francois wrote: We'd like to get a better understanding of the symfony community.
Would you mind spending a few minutes to answer these questions?
It will help us to see where our efforts should focus first.

Nationality: Dutch (Netherlands)
Age: 15
Sex: M
Professional activity: -

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees / Between 10 and 50 / Between 50 and 500 / More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal / Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes / No

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community / Professional / Magazine / Other

Since when?

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1. Fast
2. Many features included
3. schema.yml (relations that craete the db themselfs)
4. configuration

- :
1. No Smarty (as option)
2. No Ajax framework (faster development)
3. No option to make query's yourself
4. Only php5


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. schema.yml
2. layout
3. MVC


Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free
2. Easy to try
3. Support from the communaty
4. Good documentation
5. Political straight on my opinion
(how do you say that in English?)

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
1. More stable
2. Better (CLI) error handling
3. Easyer support for more databases (all, dev, test, pord with propel)
4. Easyer to search documentation


Thanks for your time :P
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by milwell » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:03 am

Nationality:Filipino
Age:30
Sex:M
Professional activity: Software Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community

Since when?
2006
In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Easy to configure
2 Lots of documentation and active community
3 Easy database connectivity
- :
1 Latest version 1.0.0 rc2 is unstable but released as stable
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Templates
2. Database Connections
3. Configuration by YAML

Which other framework do you use?
Cake
Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Cake
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes, it's free and i could contribute to the code
Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free
2. Strives to beat closed source software like M$
3. Lots of community support

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
None yet, trying to develop an ERP-CRM software

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
It will be used in major projects and have those projects published in symfony website.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by ksn135 » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:48 am

Nationality: Russian
Age: 32
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Googling. From article named like "TOP 40 PHP5 Frameworks".

Since when?
January 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1) configuration (YAML-files)
2) considered classes design
3) very good documentation and community
- :
1) Speed (propel?)


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. YAML
2. MVC
3. sfMixer

Which other framework do you use?
None. Try many.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. p4a
3. cakephp

Do you only use Open Source?
Yes, mainly.

If so why?
Ideology, cost and community support

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Community Support
3. Ability to give your input on the projects direction

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Intranet services for small buissness

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Enterprise stability and speed
--
WBR,
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by samm » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:36 pm

Nationality:
Age: 29
Sex: M
Professional activity: dev

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
2 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 yahoo bookmarks
2 doc
3 already developped
- :
1 not enought docs yet
2 hosted on slowwwwww servers
3 onsite seach feature is fully irrelevant

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. other frameworks compatibility
2. db management
3. quick module creation

Which other framework do you use?
zend

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symdfony
2. zend (for now)
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
yes, because i would rather spend money on consultant services than on licence

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. free
2. docs
3. communities

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
web services

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
addson, modules etc.. like the cart feature for example, it would be great to have somme ecommerce plugins and so on just like joomla etc..
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by hsteckylf » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:29 pm

Nationality: American
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Dir of IT, Web Developer

What’s the size of your company?
For my purposes of using symphony, they have almost all been personal projects or things I have worked on with only one other person

What is your interest for symfony?
Personal and Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community

Since when?
June 2006

Which other framework do you use?
I have looked into Cake, but did not get too far before I switched to symfony

Do you only use Open Source?
Yes

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Community Support
2. Cost to entry
3. Ability to contribute back to projects

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Mostly personal things such as project management/todo list software or like a ticket system for my WebDev company.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by mrascii » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:04 pm

Nationality: Dutch ( Netherlands )
Age: 27
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Lead webdeveloper

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Magazine

Since when?
about 8 months

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Rapid ajax based development
2 Propel :)~ :-)~ :smile:
3 Good MVC implementation
- :
1 Not so practical on smaller projects
2 Required capacity ( see 1 )
3 Far from complete documentation

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. drag-n-drop, scriptaculious integration
2. propel crud and admin generation
3. multiple environments to run your apps in ( i.e. dev and live )

Which other framework do you use?
None :)~ :-)~ :smile:

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Used some CMS frameworks, but none of them fitted our needs. So we've build our own, and are now only using symfony

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes. Mainly for costs, and of course no need to make "certain companies" richer than they already are.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Speedy updates
2. Low to no costs
3. Good support by the community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
More bugfixes, tidy up some loose ends ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by kmedlin » Fri May 11, 2007 12:03 am

Nationality: USA
Age: 28
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Web (fill in blank)

What’s the size of your company?

More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community

Since when?
I started following Symfony probably in mid-2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 PHP + MVC
2 Best documented PHP + MVC on the market
3 Most mature PHP + MVC on the market
- :
1 Lack of enterprise applications using Symfony in other companies of our size.
2 Lack of built in helpers contained in other frameworks
3 Configuration heavy vs. convention heavy

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Integrated Propel is a step forward for PHP + MVC
2. The whole debug mode is quite nice
3. Admin Generator goes a step beyond basic CRUD which is nice for Rapid Application Development.

Which other framework do you use?
1. Ruby on Rails

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.Ruby on Rails
2.Symfony (a distant second)
3.Zend (looks quite promising from the tech demos)

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Small scale internal applications. Symfony has some somewhat dubious characteristics such as carrying primary keys in hidden fields.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation - I think the documentation is quite good. I'd like to to be more complete though. The coverage of many topics leaves much to be desired.

More Support - The community forums here are not really a hotbed of activity compared to other frameworks

More Training - A completely revamped Askeet tutorial to match the current 1.0.2 release would be very helpful for newcomers I think. I ended up giving up after day 9 and just learning it on my own.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

I'd love to see Symfony become THE PHP + MVC solution. I like its implementation compared to CakePHP. It has a long way to go before being as well and widely received as Ruby on Rails, but that's largely due to being based on PHP which has some significant limits in how it handles Object Oriented Programming. For a PHP to PHP comparison though...Symfony is EASILY the best thing going! Great job.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by mix- » Tue May 15, 2007 9:29 am

Nationality: Swiss
Age: 18
Sex: m
Professional activity: computer scientist

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Magazine

Since when?
Release of symfony 1.0.0

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 i18n
2 generators
3 php5
- :
1 pear
2 speed
3 some error-messages aren't very clear

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Cache
2. Generators
3. MVC

Which other framework do you use?
hesasys3 (not released yet)

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. HesaSys 3
3. CakePHP

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
no

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. ability to edit the source
2. security
3. community, documentation

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Intranet things

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation and More Support

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Should become more popular.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by slkaufm » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:19 am

Nationality: United States
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Web Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Symfony's website.

Since when?

April 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 I18n is well-thought out and baked into the framework. Given the sort of projects that our company works on, this is a must-have.
2 The admin generator. Beats scaffolding.
3 The source code is well-commented and easy to understand.
- :
1 There aren't quite as many helpers as rails
2 The context naming isn't consistent. For example, when in an action, I use $this->getUser(). In a template, I use $sf_user. In a filter, I use $this->getContext()->getUser(). It can be a bit confusing sometimes.
3 The plugin system is good, but some of the plugins are old and no longer maintained. I wish we had some kind of plugin rating system or something like that on the site.

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. i18n
2. admin generator
3. MVC is nicely laid out.

Which other framework do you use?

Rails(a bit), CGI::Application(for legacy projects)

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.Symfony
2.Rails
3. No #3, I've only used 3 frameworks, one of which is only for legacy stuff.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Yes. We do this to save costs and it helps us to understand how things work.


Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cost
2. community
3. You can see the source code, which helps to understand how things work.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

File sharing sites, image searching sites, corporate websites, plus others.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation--the book is pretty good, but I wish it had more detail about some more obscure topics, like (for example) some examples of doSelectRs function.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

1.The helpers grow in number and use.
2.The number and functionality of plugins grows.
3.The amount of documentation continues to grow.

See ya. :P
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by rihad » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:10 am

francois wrote: We'd like to get a better understanding of the symfony community.
Would you mind spending a few minutes to answer these questions?
It will help us to see where our efforts should focus first.


Nationality: Azerbaijani
Age: 26
Sex: Yes, please :)~ :-)~ :smile: Male
Professional activity: Sys/network admin

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
I'm using Symfony as a freelancer.

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite (the Guide and the askeet tutorial)

Since when?
The beginning of May, 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
(please bear in mind that I haven't used other frameworks to such a full degree as Symfony, so I'll just name the things I liked the most)
+ :
1 Cascading configuration. Unbeatable.
2
3
- :
1 The whole Form handling thing (including validation/error handling). Weird stuff... Should be totally rewritten from scratch to let programmers concentrate on the business logic.
2 Propel. It opportunistically tends to retrieve stuff from the database, even when that much is really not necessary.
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Cascading config. Ability to fall back to PHP config in YAML files if need be (although it's static by nature).
2. Autoloading
3.

Which other framework do you use?
PEAR's DB_Table/HTML_QuickForm (not really a framework, but rocks anyway). At the moment reading the RoR book. Planning to read Apache Struts.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Open source doesn't necessarily mean that it must be gratis. I'm using free software for monetary reasons.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Zero pesos (in the case of freeware).
2. False sense of security that you theoretically control the code (Open source generally)
3. a buzzword of 21-st century

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
My first and only app is mostly a CRUD with some bonuses. Due to its simplicity it doesn't really require a framework, but I took the opportunity to learn some framework alongside...

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
More support. The forum is buggy when editing PHP snippets :(~ :-(~ :sad:
The online docs are great, though in many places greatly outdated as if no one cares.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Concentrate on the CRUD functionality (and I don't mean the admin generator, but the general case). Make form's handling a breeze. Become really the best framework out there.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by md5hash » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:43 am

Nationality: Pilipino
Age: 27
Sex: Yes.... haha male here.
Professional activity: Web Developer

What’s the size of your company?
200-400

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional,Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite,Community

Since when?
a week

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ : everything
- : hard to setup (im still having some problems)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. Friendly URLs

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symfony
2. codeigniter

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
yes, because its free

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
cost

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
i cant name them all

What would you like to see develop around symfony
documentation,Support

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
stability
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by erikwebb » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:36 pm

Nationality: United States
Age: 20
Sex: M
Professional activity: Web Application Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Me

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Not yet, but with new projects I will try

How did you get to know symfony?
Searching for PHP frameworks on Google

Since when? May 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Admin generator
2 Great plugin support
3 Template support
- :
1 Steep learning curve
2 Some documentation relates to different, incompatible versions
3 symfony cc

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Caching
2. YML
3. Admin generator

Which other framework do you use?
Code Igniter, Plone (Python), Zend

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. No framework at all (for small projects of course)
2. Symfony
3. Haven't found a third I really like

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Great community and easy to "make" things work your way

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Great communities
2. Full disclosure
3. Implement your own bug fixes/extensibility

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
So far - only a CMS and small eCommerce site

What would you like to see develop around symfony?
Higher adoption rate, more consistency

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
More documentation due to the learning curve, possibly more focused directly on how the innards of the system works
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by Junni » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:37 am

Nationality: Belgian
Age: 26
Sex: male
Professional activity: web developer & consultant

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No, company introduced Symfony to me

How did you get to know symfony?
Professional

Since when?
February 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Fast (and structured) results
2
3
- :
1
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. Admin Generator
3. Partials, slots, component slots

Which other framework do you use?
None

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No. Before Symfony, I used Visual Basic, and I experienced with ASP.net 2.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Upgrades & Fixes
3. Community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Public Websites, with limited backend functions (cms, file upload, ....)

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation & More Support

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
I hope more people found their way to Symfony. The community and forum feedback can still use some extra input.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by jzalas » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:17 am

Nationality: Polish
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Software Engineer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees / Between 10 and 50 / Between 50 and 500 / More than 500 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal / Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes / No

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community / Professional / Magazine / Other

Since when?

january 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Documentation
2 Configuration
3 Cache
- :
1 Learning time
2 Not clear templates
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Partials and Slots
2. Cache
3. I18N

Which other framework do you use?

Zend

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Zope
2. Symfony
3. Zend

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Yes. I'm enthusiast.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Opened source
2. Reusability
3. Learning from others

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

Web community portals.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

It will keep on rocking :)~ :-)~ :smile:
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by ditman » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:34 pm

Nationality: Spain
Age: 23
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Web developer / PHP Coder

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Mainly professional. Possibly will get Personal soon ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other
I found Django could generate CRUD for my web apps, and I thought: there MUST be something in pure PHP to accomplish this. Pure Google ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

Since when?
Since tuesday Aug 21, 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 - It's my first framework. Eye-opening stuff.
2 - Near-production ready admin interfaces. A+ for this.
3 - Automation of MVC + ORM => timesaver.
- :
1 - Not much apart the fact that I must "wrap my mind" around the way the framework works :)~ :-)~ :smile:
2 - Integrated with Prototype and Scriptaculous instead of Mootools (When I discovered mootools had the same feeling towards it that I'm having right now with symfony)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. - symfony propel-init-admin
2. - symfony propel-build-all
3. - is_secure: on

Which other framework do you use?
None, and I hope I don't need any other :P

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No, I use both open source and propietary software. Depends of the moment and the project.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Free as in beer
2. Community suport
3. Editing in vi makes me look smarter to my bosses ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Custom websites for small companies. Too much CRUD.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation
More everything. If I had to choose: a bigger cookbook ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
I hope it survives enough for me to become an expert on it (and I can put it in my resume)... and contribute something to the community ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
David Iglesias Teixeira
Indigo IT Developer
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by ian_ » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:27 am

Nationality: British
Age: 21
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Student; web-dev

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
symfony website

Since when?
June 07

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 ease-of-use
2 generators
3 "grown-up" and well-tested, community made up of professionals
- :
1 symfony uses propel, and the propel documentation just ****
2 speed
3 something in between the symfony book and the api documentation; i.e. a short (er than API docs) but precise list of classes/functions/concepts. you name it, more cheatsheets!

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin generator
2. i18n/i10n (note: I definitely miss a tool that automatically generates xliff dictionaries based on __ function calls)
3. ajax integration

Which other framework do you use?
Zend and played with rails.

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. rails
2. symfony
3. not sure.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. low costs
2. avaiability
3. there's nothing like reading endless manpages

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
rather complex database-driven multilingual sites that automate workflows; low number of users, yet extremely high reliability and accuracy required.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
propel 1.3 ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by dantleech » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:15 am

Nationality: British
Age: 27
Sex: M
Professional activity: Web Developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 : ORM
2 : Flexibility
3 : Form processing is more flexible
- :
1 : Insecure templating
2 : Form processing is still a PITA
3 : .. bad sanity checking in symfony core (more exceptions less php errors)

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. : The exception screen
2. : The automation
3. : The structure

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards

Ive tried CakePHP, ZOOP and Symfony. Symfomy won, probably because it looked more comprehensive. The ZOOP forum is a wasteland (although it had some cool features) and cakePHP had to many 'i have done that better' scenarios. Symfony had the most out-of-the-box functionality.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Yes, although open source dosnt always represent the best of the available products, the open source paradigm IMO has the most potential.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. The education
2. The open community
3. Incentive driven software

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
1. Customer interfaces.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
to continue support for 1.x (theres no going back now.. ), and for 2.x to be the ultimate in OOP design.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by D@ Mick » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:29 pm

Nationality: Belgian
Age: 22
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Information Architect

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
Since a few weeks ago

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1: Structure
2: configuration possibilities by apps/modules
3: Community support
- :
1: No custom made ORM layer


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1: Integrated debugger (sometimes very helpful)
2: Use of partials/slots/components
3: Authentication module

Which other framework do you use?
1: Rails (ORM layer rocks)
2: Symfony (using on every PHP project from now)
2: Seam
3: Struts
4. .NET

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Rails
2. Symfony
3. Seam

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No, sometimes clients explicitaly want to use .NET

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Great support (not only by developers, also by community)
2. Easier to knit self made features to the product
3. Dev's take propositions into consideration

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
CMS/CRM/DMS

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation (Maybe a cookbook or something alike)

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Keeping track of new developments concerning developing Web apps.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by hagnat » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:31 pm

Nationality: Brazil
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Computer Scientist

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Kind of. I was the one assigned to study it, and see if it could fit our needs. It did.

How did you get to know symfony?
Magazine

Since when?
March 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 MVC
2 CRUD Generator
3 Model Generator
- :
1 Reliance on Propel
2 Size
3 Speed

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Easy i18n
2. Easy AJAX
3. CRUD Generator

Which other framework do you use?
CakePHP

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes. For several reasons.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Community Support
3. Bugs are quickly discovered and patched

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Back-End Applications.

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation
The "Definitive Guide" is nowhere near 'definitive'

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Support for certain sql functions, such as count, sum, upper and others.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by zero0x » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:10 pm

We'd like to get a better understanding of the symfony community.
Would you mind spending a few minutes to answer these questions?
It will help us to see where our efforts should focus first.

Nationality: Slovak
Age: 16
Sex: M
Professional activity: PHP developer (only summer job) - developing db applications - intranets etc.

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Not yet, but if I work they one more time during summer, I will (but I won't tell 'em, because they give me money for time spent by coding :lol: )

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite - I read some blog post about best php frameworks, then I watched screencast, and I was ready to try it ;)~ ;-)~ :wink: the screencast was amazing

Since when?
Well, only a week or two !

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Everything-generation
2 No MySQL tables creation, just write the schema :)~ :-)~ :smile:
3 Auto-Ajax (but I don't like prototype, so I'm going to create jQuery plugin - well, I know that something like that exists, but I have a great idea with window.location.hash, so if interested, let me know [url=mailto:vojto@hmm.sk]vojto@hmm.sk[/url] and I tell u everything)
- :
1 no smarty ( I'm little bit afraid to experiment with that )
2 I guess there will be problems when I will need to do some modification in SQL (some grouping etc., subselects..) because everything is "too" automated, if I'm wrong, write tell me!
3 don't know yet!

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
- all I wrote before -

Which other framework do you use?
Zend Framework

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
2. Zend Framework
3. never tried anything else

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Well I am, but I don't even realize

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. it's OPEN SOURCE of course :)~ :-)~ :smile:


What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
I think I can develop only one kind of webapps with symfony - db applications - but I use lot of ajax, so it's quite interactive be fun (well it was when I was coding in JavaScript/jQuery, now don't know what will it look like)

What would you like to see develop around symfony
heh

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
I wish there would be "symfony certified developer" certificate ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
ubuntu rules
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by darc » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:04 am

Nationality: Filipino (Philippines)
Age: 19
Sex: Yes, I Love SEX!!! just kiddin, MALE.
Professional activity:
College Student


What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Other: My proffesor Introduce to us about symfony

Since when?

2007 when im taking a subject SYSADD1 Systems Analysys and Design

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1.free
2.good documentation
3
- :
1. for me hard to understand coz im weak in logic
2.
3.

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. php
2. crud
3. p

Which other framework do you use?

only symfony

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.symfony
2.symfony
3.symfony

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
slightly because its OPENSOURCE

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1.
2.
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
community

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation , More Support

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

less templating.
~D~
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by cestcri » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:06 pm

Nationality: German
Age: 29
Sex: M
Professional activity: Web Developer / Interaction Designer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite

Since when?
August 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
Numerous help resources

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. it's based on PHP ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:
2.
3.

Which other framework do you use?
ASP.NET

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2.
3. ASP.NET

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Huge community
2. sexy
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Web 2.0 community style site


What would you like to see develop around symfony
I'm quite new to Symfony, so I don't have an idea yet

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Continuous growth
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by rfrobel » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:26 pm

Nationality: Swiss
Age: 34
Sex: m
Professional activity: Assitant to CEO, and Programming (40%)

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500 (90)

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Not so far

How did you get to know symfony?
Magazine

Since when? Nov.06
Which other framework do you use?
no frameworks so far

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Easy to start with (Costs...)
2. Communities
3. less "shareholder value" driven

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
I'developped a "quality management system" for our company but not with symfony. I will maybe for version 2.0...

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other
Can not say so far
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by swagner » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:35 pm

Nationality: german
Age: 28
Sex: male
Professional activity: software developer

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
October 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1. I18n
2. routing
3. easy validation
- :
1. testing framework
2. more examples needed
3. some errors in the book

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. validation
2. generators
3. routing

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Eclipse
2. Symfony
3. Globus Toolkit

Do you only use Open Source? If so why? As php framework - yes.
Because it'free

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. it's free
2. easy to contribute
3. FREE!

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
management systems

What would you like to see develop around symfony
a better testing framework or an extended lime

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
that it grows and the sfcommunity can help me solve my problems
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by sunnys » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:05 pm

What’s the size of your company?
Between 10 and 50

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No, my boss did, we were looking for a good php framework and after long talk, we finaly took symfony over cakephp

How did you get to know symfony?
Professional

Since when?
Last summer

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 I18n
2 Rooting
3 Caching
- :
1 default ORM lack function and easy manytomany relationship
2 Speed
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1.Root
2.Caching
3. Plugins

Which other framework do you use?
.NET / Ruby

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Ruby
2. Symfony
3. VS.NET 2008

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Community
3. Access to code

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Website / Intranet

What would you like to see develop around symfony
better doc

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
yes, with change incomming for 1.1 everything looking good for 2.0 :D~ :-D~ :grin:

Thanks for your time Razz
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by Emacs » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:22 pm

Nationality: France
Age: 20
Sex: Male
Professional activity: webdevelopper

What’s the size of your company?

Less than 10 people

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional / Personal / Both

Both but primary for a personnal use

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes / No

Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Community / Professional / Magazine / Other

I got to know Symfony within PHP websites and a screencast on the AFUP website.

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?

+ :

1. Powerfull
2. Security
3. Extraordinary documentation and community

- :

1. Not very easy to use quickly
2. Learn the YAML syntax
3. Some lacks with the ORM

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities

1. Database Asbraction Layer
2. Object Relationnal Mapping
3. Administration generator

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards

1. Stato Framework (I'm trying it)
2. -
3. -

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Yes I do because Open-Source is free and has most of the time great communities to support projects

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you

1. Free
2. Large communities who support projects
3. Don't need to reinvent the wheel

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

Traditional websites

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation / More Support / More Training / Other

- More documentation
- More training examples
- Code snippets
- More plug-ins

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?

I hope that Symfony will continue to grow up thanks to Sensio Labs and the rest of its international community.
Hugo HAMON
Sensio Labs Trainings Manager
http://www.hugohamon.com (fr, en)
http://www.apprendre-php.com (fr)
Co-author of "Bien Développer en PHP avec Symfony et Doctrine"
Contributor to the symfony project (documentation, plugins, community)
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by jillelaine » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:19 pm

I thought I would answer some of this, as maybe it is interesting how some symfony users get started.

Part of my job is website development, and so I got persuaded to go to a local web pros user group meeting. My first meeting, after hearing long presentation on MVC (which was all very new to me), I won gang of four "Design Patterns" in the raffle! Lucky me!

Not willing to admit this book was waaay over my head, I decided that I would learn about such things, as I could see how my poor coding could be improved.

The presentation I saw said, if you were new to MVC, to start with a framework. I spent time researching PHP frameworks, and settled on symfony, mostly because of the WONDERFUL geeky documentation (I bought the book) as well as patient, supportive community.

So now, I've dived headfirst in. At the end of the month, I will try to do a "beginner's" presentation on symfony at next web pros UG meeting: it's a barcamp http://barcamp.org/, so hopefully peeps won't have too high expectations! I will show them, if I can make symfony work so well for me, anybody can! I am very enthusiastic and will make it fun.
-----------------------------------

What is your interest for symfony?
Personal and professional (of course need to make my own blog!)

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Many sources, starting first with Wikipedia.

Since when?
December 2007

Which other framework do you use?
Not exactly a framework, but I have used Drupal.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
I use other than Open Source, but I prefer Open Source whenever I can use it.

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Community Support
2. Read the code
3. free
(Every body says these things, right?)

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Right now working on big site related to training courses. Trying to clean up sad spaghetti code mess (of my own creation!).

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More great code? I like that symfony's code is so new and very clean. It's so readable, it is a pleasure to use.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Every one lives happily ever after?
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by benhaines » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:47 pm

Nationality: British
Age: 27
Sex: Male
Professional activity: IT Security Manager

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Community

Since when?
2006

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Features
2 Documentation
3 Community
- :
1 Steap learning curve
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Routing/URL
2. Environments
3. Plugin System

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.Symfony
2.Drupal
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Community
3. Flexibility

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Community/social based applications

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation (specifically examples of advanced features)

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
To grow its userbase, see some security analysis of the framework, remain open source and promote open source
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by planet » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:39 am

Nationality: Pole
Age: 18
Sex: Male
Professional activity: Freelancer

What’s the size of your company?
I don't have a company ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

What is your interest for symfony?
Personal

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
I don't remember

Since when?
6-7 days ago ;)~ ;-)~ :wink:

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Admin generator
2 -
3 -
- :
1 -
2 -
3 -

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. Admin generator
2. Validator
3. Database services

Which other framework do you use?
Only Symfony

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony :)~ :-)~ :smile:
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Yes because of money

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. It isn't expensive
2. Good support
3. Good documentation

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Personal sites

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation More Support More Training :)~ :-)~ :smile:

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
It will be the best framework all over the world.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by jphooiveld » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:42 pm

Nationality: Dutch
Age: 32
Sex: Male
Professional activity: web application developer

What’s the size of your company?
Les than 10 employees

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
Other

Since when?
May 2007

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Extensive documentation
2 Good community
3 Available plugins
- :
1 Reliance and speed with propel with big applications
2 Quality of plugins
3 Outdated documentation

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. MVC
2. Plugin system
3. Ajax integration

Which other framework do you use?
None

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. Symfony
2. Django
3. Zend

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
Cost

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. Support
3. Community

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
Web applications

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Faster and more reliabe ORM
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by United Colors » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:13 pm

We have a small, students-driven company at our school and, let’s say, I’m a kind of a boss. We’re developing some small web-applications like a page, where students register their two-weeks school-training in other companies or an application where teachers can upload sheets or other materials for the next lesson and students add their homework.

We love Symfony, ’cause it enables us to build web-applications in a really short time. We started developing with Symfony some days after christmas 2007 and need just some days for a web-page which took us earlier a few weeks or months.

Well, primarily I would like to have a documentation for Symfony 1.1, as I experienced a serveral problems with the new forms :oops: and it took me some hours to understand Symfony’s code and the mistakes I made.

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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by ti-guy » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:43 pm

Nationality: French, living in Canada
Age: 42
Sex: M
Professional activity: Analyst, but freelance as developper

What’s the size of your company? Less than 20 employees

What is your interest for symfony? Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company? No

How did you get to know symfony? lejournaldunet.com

Since when? 4 month

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 multimiguism
2 documentation
3 helpers
- :
1 Maybe less popular than some "big names"
2
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. CRUD generation
2. Ajax
3. DB independance

Which other framework do you use? None

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.
2.
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why? Cost, community

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Cost
2. community
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony? I'm developping my first application with symfony : an online store for a jazz label in Montreal

What would you like to see develop around symfony : More training would be great, especially in Montreal

What are your hopes for the future of symfony? integration with rich UI like Adobe Air
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by cli16 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:40 pm

Nationality: French
Age: 25
Sex: Female (yes I am !!!)
Professional activity: Computing Engineer (specialized in web)

What’s the size of your company? Less than 5 employees

What is your interest for symfony? Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company? Yes (in my company!)

How did you get to know symfony? search about PHP Frameworks

Since when? Known since 1 year, professional use since 6 month

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 MVC
2 CRUD
3 Documentation, reactive community
- :
1 Learning
2
3


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. CRUD
2. Ajax
3. MVC


Which other framework do you use? a Java framework home made

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1.Symfony
2.
3.


Do you only use Open Source? If so why? No

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. cost
2. community
3. addons


What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony? websites, intranet...

What would you like to see develop around symfony : a bigger french community

What are your hopes for the future of symfony? More plugins, open projects, and examples.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by Josh1 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:47 am

Nationality: Australian
Age: 18
Sex: M
Professional activity: sleeping :P

What’s the size of your company?
10

What is your interest for symfony?
Both

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No

How did you get to know symfony?
Professional

Since when?
January 2008

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1 Fast to create new Modules
2 Creating new modules is easy
3 Peer files are excellent!
- :
1 CLI needs work
2 Not easy for beginners.
3

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. PROPEL!!
2. Including of custom classes in the lib folder.
3.

Which other framework do you use?

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. symfony
2. cakephp
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. Anyone can use
2. Find out how someone else did something.
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
flight search engine, customer database

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation.

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
We all get cake.
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by joshcoady » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:37 pm

Nationality: USA
Age: 28
Sex: M
Professional activity: CTO/CSA

What’s the size of your company?
Between 50 and 500

What is your interest for symfony?
Professional

Did you introduce symfony into your company?
Yes

How did you get to know symfony?
SymfonyWebsite / Yahoo

Since when?
May 2008

In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?
+ :
1. Community, docs
2. View layer, slots, partials, components, etc
3. configurability
- :
1. Tight coupling with DAL provider - a lot of the plugins are written for Propel or Doctrine ... they should be interchangeable (dont know if this was fixed in 1.1)
2. Autoloading prevents default intellisense in IDEs which slows dev time, especially for non-experts (those who dont have the symfony APIs memorized)
3. Admin generator sorely needs capabilities for master/detail screens

Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1. see above
2.
3.

Which other framework do you use?

asp.net 2.0/3.5, MediaWiki

Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards
1. asp.net
2. symfony
3.

Do you only use Open Source? If so why?

no

Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1. free
2. short (usually) release cycles
3.

What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?

information web sites with user-interactivity and ajax

What would you like to see develop around symfony
More documentation

What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
better docs, better admin generators, Eclipse IDE specifically for symfony to solve intellisense issues
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Re: [POLL] What do you use symfony for?

by lkrubner » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:05 pm

What’s the size of your company?
Less than 10 employees (I think. I'm an indepdent contractor. The project is a joint project between two companies. One of the companies is quite small. The other, I'm told, is bigger, but I don't how much bigger. I suppose 50 people might be employed, in total.)


What is your interest for symfony?
Professional


Did you introduce symfony into your company?
No


How did you get to know symfony?
I was told the project would use Symfony. I went to the bookstore and bought the book. I've also learned a lot from this website.


Since when?
A month ago


In your opinion what are the 3 main upside and the 3 main downside of symfony comparing to other Framework?

1. since the emergence of Ruby On Rails I've been at 3 companies that have tried to make their own frameworks. None of these frameworks ever reach maturity because short-term commercial considerations force shortcuts that sacrafice some of the conceptual clarity of the framework. Using a successful open source project like Symfony avoids the expense and inevitable incompleteness of homemade frameworks.

2. Symfony is a full framework that enforces discipline and therefore overcomes some of the looseness that causes PHP to be held in such contempt.

3. Symfony goes further than most PHP framework toward offering a system that could manage a full commerical project. Both CakePHP and CogeIgniter are more lightweight and free form. Symfony organizes more. If Symfony could also offer organization for cron scripts (which I think all serious commercial PHP projects must depend on) then it would offer organization for whole projects.



1. One company I worked at has commited to CogeIgniter because it is lightweight and free form.

2. One company I worked at continues to develop its own framework, partly because they have a very advanced ORM that they wish to continue to use.

3. One company I worked at continue to use its current code base because they worry that transforming their code to Symfony entails too much risk. They are interested by Symfony, but don't see a clear path from where they are to where they might be if they were using Symfony.


Name 3 of its best technical functionalities
1.
2.
3.


Which other framework do you use?


Please rank the three best frameworks according to your personal standards

1. sds5.com has a good one, which they say they will release as open source some time soon.

2. Ruby on Rails is awesome. It is now and will probably remain the gold standard that all frameworks are compared to. It has a truly amazing community around it. As an example, there are at least 6 open source projects developing new scaffolding modules for it, to replace the built-in scaffolding system. Every aspect of Ruby On Rails has multiple, competing projects to replace the built-in aspects of it. The level of innovation and creativity is really quite amazing. For historical reasons, Java programmers have come to regard Ruby as a serious programming language. PHP remains under a cloud because people associate it with PHP 4, when its OO abilities were weak.

3. Category4.com developed a framework that worked with a GUI form generator that was so easy to use that their non-technical staff (their project managers) were able to meet with clients, come up with forms on the spot, and from that form the framework would auto-generate the database tables and code needed for CRUD operations. This was very, very cool, and for a web design firm, the economic advantages of being able to empower non-technical staff this way was considerable.



Do you only use Open Source? If so why?
I don't use Microsoft, if that is what you mean. Microsoft involves expense for seemingly no functional gain.


Name 3 main advantages of the Open Source for you
1.
2.
3.



What kind of web application do you mainly develop with symfony?
I've only done one project so far. I'm building a control panel that will allow staff at a media company to see what material its content suppliers are uploading to their servers. I'm also automating the process by which the data is imported to the database.


What would you like to see develop around symfony
Ultimately, everything that Ruby On Rails has. Not sure if that is possible in the PHP world, but it would be healthy for PHP if it happened - more books, more conferences, more documentation, a bigger community, more companies committed to its development.


What are your hopes for the future of symfony?
Ideally, it will change people's perceptions of PHP, so that companies begin to take PHP seriously, the way they take Ruby seriously.
Symfony Experts offers answers: http://www.symfonyexperts.com/
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