| Askeet rewrite [message #34492] |
Thu, 30 August 2007 01:44  |
halfer Messages: 9514 Registered: January 2006 Location: West Midlands, UK |
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Dear all
In my view, one of the problems that new users have with symfony is that the askeet.com codebase, which would be a good way to introduce many of the symfony concepts, has not kept track of the new developments introduced in version 1.x.
Accordingly, I propose that we rewrite it, using the latest symfony mechanisms (like plugins), so that new users can have a more reliable and easier introduction into the world of symfony. I had the idea that each day could be done by one person, so that the workload is spread out and the responsibility is not carried by over-worked individual . I have emailed Fabien with this proposal, and he is in agreement.
I would imagine that we could start by asking people to put their names down, and optionally what day(s) they would like to rework. Then, as each day is completed, we would ask the community to take a look to see if things fit in with current "good practise", and modifications could be made accordingly. When the community is happy, the code can be committed to SVN ready for the next volunteer.
Could I trouble a few people to give some feedback on this idea? Who would like to join in? I will do a day as well
[Updated on: Wed, 23 January 2008 13:15] Remember Palestine
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| Re: Askeet rewrite [message #34496 is a reply to message #34492 ] |
Thu, 30 August 2007 06:32   |
pezetgee Messages: 734 Registered: March 2006 |
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I think it is a v.good idea, looking at the askeet threads there are just problems currently.
I would volunteer to do a day as well.
Few points/questions:
1. I guess we're keeping the current end-user features only, without extending them.
2. What completion time frame are you thinking about for the whole project and for askeet-day?
3. We should open a separate forum [branch] for the project comments.
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| Re: Askeet rewrite [message #34527 is a reply to message #34492 ] |
Thu, 30 August 2007 11:51   |
halfer Messages: 9514 Registered: January 2006 Location: West Midlands, UK |
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Great, thanks.
| Quote: | 1. I guess we're keeping the current end-user features only, without extending them.
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Yes, to keep things simple. Of course once it works, someone can maintain it if they wish, although that would be a separate project.
| Quote: | 2. What completion time frame are you thinking about for the whole project and for askeet-day?
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In terms of how long it should take the user once it is finished, I thought that maintaining the 24 days would be a good idea, and I expect that the functionality added in each of the existing days should correspond to what we add in our replacement days.
In terms of how long it takes our assembled group of contributors to rewrite Askeet, it may not be necessary to specify an ETA. In fact, we could just have a list of programmers, each volunteering at short notice to do the next available day, so that we keep things moving. This might help avoid waiting a long time for one person - if people volunteer when they have a few hours clear in the following few days, we can try to avoid losing project momentum. So, so long as progress continues to be made, in my view it doesn't matter when it gets finished.
| Quote: | 3. We should open a separate forum [branch] for the project comments.
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Good idea 
[Edited for clarity]
[Updated on: Thu, 30 August 2007 11:53] Remember Palestine
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| Re: Askeet rewrite [message #34541 is a reply to message #34527 ] |
Thu, 30 August 2007 12:49   |
pezetgee Messages: 734 Registered: March 2006 |
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Cool.
I think that we could also extend wiki by adding solutions to commonly occurring problems (as seen on the forum) and perhaps reference them in the tutorial..
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| Re: Askeet rewrite [message #35232 is a reply to message #34492 ] |
Mon, 10 September 2007 11:18   |
halfer Messages: 9514 Registered: January 2006 Location: West Midlands, UK |
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Yes, we'll definitely have to work through the days sequentially.
As for who's starting, I hope to attract more names on this thread first. Currently we have three people, and to be honest I only have time to do a couple of days, not a third of the project. As Mike has said that SymfonyCamp generated some interest in this, I am hoping this week more people will put their names down here.
[Updated on: Mon, 10 September 2007 11:19] Remember Palestine
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| Re: Askeet rewrite [message #39802 is a reply to message #34492 ] |
Mon, 19 November 2007 11:12   |
halfer Messages: 9514 Registered: January 2006 Location: West Midlands, UK |
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JohnnyMac, the only problematic one is Askeet, and even that can be got working under the latest version with tweaks! I agree that improvements can be made however. If you are looking for a good intro, I suggest you try the "My First Project" which should not have any problems.
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